1. Remember when that flerf held a light up through a board and proved the earth was round, as well as buying multiple different “chambers” just to try eliminate outside factors but they still measured the earth’s drift of about 15 degrees per hour
  2. “8 inches per mile squared” is a parabola formula used as “evidence” for the FE model created by flat earthers, no heliocentrist actually uses that formula because they know it’s wrong
  3. Water does curve, raindrops for example
  4. “Water finds its own level” is meaningless because Level doesn’t mean “infinite horizontal plane”
  5. The Northern Star and Southern Cross constellation don’t work together or at all in your multiple incompatible FE models. On the heliocentric model The Northern Star is in the Nothern Hemisphere and The Southern Cross Constellation in the Southern Hemisphere.
  6. On an FE you would see different sides of the moon depending on where you are, which doesn’t happen irl. On the heliocentric model the Moon and Earth are tidally locked with each other. Tidal Locking is when the partner body of a main body's orbit time is the same time the main body takes to rotate, so we only ever see one side of the partner body.
  7. Day Night Cycle, exactly half the earth has to be in day and the other half at night which is incompatible with your eclipse model
  8. A lot of long bridges had to be built with the Earth’s curvature in mind, else the towers that hold the bridge up would collapse without any extra support
  9. “Impossible Eclipses” work on the heliocentric model, they are known as selenelion.
  10. “Gravity isn’t real, it’s just electromagnetism!” is false and flerfs claim this because Gravity wouldn't work on a disc, if it did the disc would collapse into a sphere because gravity pulls mass towards the center of mass. The reason electromagnetic forces aren't really a replacement for gravity is over large distances or with large bodies electromagnetic forces have far less of an effect than Gravity, not to say they have no effects and aren't a factor, just that they aren't the only or main contributing factors.
  11. NZ and Australia. They exist, and the people aren't paid actors. Explain why? You cannot and the only reason flerfs say that is because NZ and Australia are whack on their models so they wouldn't work
  12. An actual distance scale on a map? The Heliocentric model has one. Come up with a scale, get 2 points, measure the distance on your imaginary scale, measure the distance on the heliocentric distance scale, then go out and drive between those points and see how far you went.
  13. No flight path is ever in a fully straight line, if you search up flight path they are curved despite being on a 2D projected map of the 3D globe on the website (unless there is a 3d mode then it will look fine).
  14. Sunsets, Sunrises, and their Moon variants don't work on a FE. The sun and moon would just appear to slowly get smaller when moving away and bigger when coming back
  15. The Sun and Moon don't change in size, there is a phenomenon however which is called "The Horizon Illusion" when the sun's apparent size changes when it's lower in the sky. This is due to a number of things but here's 1: Atmospheric Refraction, some light gets refracted when entering the atmosphere which causes some sun rays to compress or contract in position making the sun appear to change size, but it doesn't
  16. "Gas needs a container" or some variant of this, flerfs may believe this for a plethora of resons, one is that they think "vacuum" in space means space sucks like slurping a drink up a straw, but that's just wrong. Vacuum just means area with little to no particles in it. The Gravity of the Earth, the fact that nothing can leave the earth without going faster than it's exit velocity, and the fact that there is no air pressure in space to pull the atmosphere are the reasons why the atmosphere is still on the earth.
  17. Flerfs have no single model to account for all these things like the heliocentric model does, and that alone should be enough evidence to disprove them

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